8. BONUS EPISODE: CHILDLESS BY CHOICE w/ Denia Perez

<p>To hear more, visit <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://motheringnewworlds.substack.com" target="_blank">motheringnewworlds.substack.com</a> </p><p></p><p>In today’s episode, I interview Denia Perez, an immigration attorney by training, longtime activist in the immigrant rights movement, and a writer with the nonprofit Documented (where she recently interviewed Zohran Mamdani!). Beyond all of that, Denia is also a witch, a clown, the town jester of my heart, the madrina to my child, and my best friend. Denia also writes the hilarious and tender substack “<a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://substack.com/@den1a" target="_blank">how to survive your flop era</a>” where she chronicles her own unlearning of capitalism, perfectionism, and tending to your inner child/weirdo.</p><p></p><p><b>ABOUT MOTHERING NEW WORLDS</b>*</p><p></p><ul><li>New episodes every other Friday on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Youtube.</li><li>FOLLOW ON <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://riverside.com/instagram.com/motheringnewworlds" target="_blank"><b>IG</b></a></li><li>SUBSCRIBE ON <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://riverside.com/motheringnewworlds.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>SUBSTACK</b></a> for extra monthly episode</li></ul>