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[REDACTED] Episode 9: He Gave His AI Assistant 64 Tools and Zero Permission to Delete Anything

[REDACTED] Episode 9: He Gave His AI Assistant 64 Tools and Zero Permission to Delete Anything26 Aug43 min

Josh Guter, founder of Elephants, joins us for a live product teardown of the AI operations assistant he built for small teams. The conversation covers the architecture behind the assistant: roughly 64 purpose-built tools, an approval-gated write system that never lets the AI act without human sign-off, and the logging system Josh built to audit a codebase that, by his own admission, has become a black box even to him.

Josh walks us through his full build process, from sketching UI mockups in Adobe Illustrator to having Claude draft implementation plans and Codex tear them apart before anything ships, plus how he red-teams his own assistant before any change touches its tools or system prompt. He also shares how Elephants evolved from a low-code personal relationship manager built on Glide Apps and Make.com into a full-stack platform now running the daily operations of NC State's Entrepreneurship Clinic.

It's a candid look at what it actually takes to ship an AI feature people trust with real operational data, including the parts that still keep a solo founder up at night.

Timestamps

00:00 Cold open: "The devil's in the details"

00:45 Welcome back to Redacted

01:20 Introducing guest Josh Guter

02:33 Josh joins and how he and David met

02:56 What Elephants is: ops software for small teams

07:03 The real product: the AI assistant

08:04 The big question: model, cost, context, trust

14:04 Behind the scenes: Anthropic's API and the Make.com origin story