407: Charles C. Mann on the wizards & prophets of climate change

<p>I interviewed Charles C. Mann in 2020 about his book, <em>The Wizard and the Prophet: Two Remarkable Scientists and Their Dueling Visions to Shape Tomorrow&#39;s World</em>. This episode is a personal favorite of mine.</p><p>Somehow, I don&#39;t believe I&#39;ve ever rereleased any old episodes. But there are many great ones buried in the archives. I am going to start bringing more of them out that remain relevant.</p><p>If you aren&#39;t familiar with Charles C. Mann, he&#39;s written a bunch of great books including <em>1491 </em>and <em>1493</em>, both of which I&#39;d recommend.</p><p><strong>This Episode&#39;s Sponsor</strong></p><p><strong></strong><a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠<strong>EcoEngineers: a full-service advisory and consulting firm focused on carbon dioxide removal, decarbonization, and carbon markets</strong>⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com/p/how-to-hire-fire-and-get-max-value" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠Listen to the RCC episode I made with David LaGreca from EcoEngineers about how to choose, hire, and fire carbon market contractors.⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><strong></strong><a href="https://www.ecoengineers.us/ecoforums/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠<strong>2026 EcoForums Training Series: </strong><em><strong>Navigating Global Carbon and Fuel Regulations, Market Mechanisms, and Life-Cycle Analysis Fundamentals</strong></em>⁠</a><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p><a href="https://climateworkersanonymous.substack.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠<strong>⁠Check out my new show, </strong><em><strong>Climate Workers Anonymous</strong></em>⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><a href="https://creators.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠<strong>Become a paid subscriber of </strong><em><strong>Reversing Climate Change</strong></em>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><strong></strong><a href="https://www.rosskenyon.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠<strong>⁠Subscribe to the </strong><em><strong>Reversing Climate Change </strong></em><strong>Substack</strong>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><a href="https://climateworkersanonymous.substack.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠⁠⁠<strong>Subscribe to the </strong><em><strong>Climate Workers Anonymous</strong></em><strong> Substack</strong>⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_C._Mann_(writer)" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Charles C. Mann on Wikipedia</a></p><p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/220698/the-wizard-and-the-prophet-by-charles-c-mann/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><em>The Wizard and the Prophet</em> by Charles C. Mann</a></p>