Michael Gove, Count Binface, Michael Simmons & Graeme Thomson

<p>On this week’s&nbsp;<em>Spectator Out Loud</em>: Michael Gove explains why he is against more security for MPs; taking a brief break from campaigning in clacton as count binface, Jon Harvey explains why Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey is a triumph;&nbsp;Michael Simmons says shut up about your disability; and finally, Graeme Thomson reviews Madonna.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Produced and presented by Patrick Gibbons.</p><p>Become a <em>Spectator </em>subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to <a href="https://www.spectator.co.uk/follow-your-podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/adfree</a> to find out more.</p><br><p>For more <em>Spectator</em> podcasts, go to <a href="https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/podcasts</a>.</p><br><p>Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk</p>

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