Imagining Better Futures Through Interactive Storytelling and Play – with Dain Saint

In this episode of Stories for the Future, I’m joined by storyteller, game designer, and creative force Dain Saint — someone who doesn’t just talk about change, but invites people to practice it through immersive storytelling, collaborative world-building, and art.

We recorded this conversation a few months ago, but it feels even more relevant today. Especially in a time of political tension, uncertainty, and fear, we talk about how imagination, empathy, and interactive experiences can help us stay connected — and prepare us for the future we actually want to live in.

Dain also shares insights from his work in journalism, immersive theatre, and game design — including how changing what it means to “win” the game can fundamentally shift how we live and lead.

We talk about:

What interactive storytelling really is — and why it matters

The role of empathy in imagining better futures

Practicing democracy through games (!)

What it feels like to live through turbulent times in the US

The difference between truth and honesty

Why art, play, and participation are vital right now

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Learn more about Dain’s work on his website.