
← The Everyday Agile Podcast15 Jul · 43 min
The Biggest Mistakes Leaders Make During Change: Masha Gaganova
<p>Leadership doesn't fail because people resist change.</p><p><br></p><p>It fails because organisations measure the wrong things, chase Agile without understanding it, and overwhelm teams with constant transformation.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Everyday Agile Podcast, I sit down with change consultant, keynote speaker and Agile coach Masha Gaganova to discuss why modern organisations struggle with transformation, what great leaders do differently, and how teams can thrive in fast-changing environments.</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss:</p><p>Why people don't actually resist change</p><p>Agile myths leaders still believe</p><p>Transformation fatigue</p><p>Better metrics than KPIs</p><p>AI adoption inside organisations</p><p>Leadership behaviours that destroy trust</p><p>Building high-performing teams</p><p>Change management</p><p>Product thinking</p><p>Psychological safety</p><p>Becoming a keynote speaker</p><p>Building your personal brand on LinkedIn</p><p><br></p><p>Whether you're a Project Manager, Product Manager, Delivery Manager, Scrum Master, Agile Coach, CTO or Engineering Leader, this episode is packed with practical advice you can apply immediately.</p><p><br></p><p>👇 Let us know in the comments:</p><p>Do people resist change... or poor leadership?</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Connect with Masha:</p><p>https://www.linkedin.com/in/masha-gaganova/</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎ Not Another Agile Conference 2027 tickets are now available.</p><p>https://www.tickettailor.com/events/notanotheragileconference/2178867</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Newsletter </p><p>https://substack.com/@betweenthestandups</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters: </p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>01:05 Meet Masha Gaganova</p><p>03:15 Why Workshops Beat Endless Meetings</p><p>05:40 What Frustrates Her About Agile</p><p>06:30 What Agile Really Means</p><p>07:20 Lessons From Corporate Life</p><p>08:40 The Biggest Career Lesson</p><p>10:50 Why Teams Measure The Wrong Things</p><p>12:05 Better Metrics Than KPIs</p><p>13:25 Leadership Behaviours That Kill Teams</p><p>15:00 Why Vulnerability Matters</p><p>17:00 Advice For Graduates & New Consultants</p><p>19:10 AI Hype & Transformation Fatigue</p><p>21:05 Signs Your Team Is Burnt Out</p><p>22:20 Is "Transformation" The Wrong Word?</p><p>24:05 Agile Myths Leaders Still Believe</p><p>26:35 An Underrated Leadership Framework</p><p>30:00 Avoiding Burnout</p><p>32:00 Becoming A Conference Speaker</p><p>36:05 Building A LinkedIn Presence</p><p>38:05 Why People Don't Resist Change</p><p>39:30 The Future Of Work</p><p>40:05 What Gives Masha Hope</p><p>42:35 Where To Find Masha </p>