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S2:4 Climbing the Wrong Ladder? What Happiness Rankings Might Be Missing

S2:4 Climbing the Wrong Ladder? What Happiness Rankings Might Be Missing1 Jul 202518 min

In this fun episode, we dig into a surprisingly overlooked question: What exactly are

people thinking about when they rate their happiness on global surveys? Is Finland

really the happiest country in the world or just the best at climbing metaphorical

ladders? Researcher August Nilsson joins us to explain how the metaphorical “Cantril

Ladder” works and reveal how tiny tweaks in how we ask about happiness can

dramatically change the answers we get. What happens if we ask about harmony in

life instead? Or if we ditch the ladder metaphor altogether? Tune in for a deep dive

into the psychology behind how we measure happiness and whether we're asking the

right questions at all.

Link to the study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-52939-y

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