
← The Self Within18 Dec 2025 · 58 min
#19: Hope, Faith & the Courage to say God with Nele Zeeh and Deacon Shields
<p>In this episode of <em>The Self Within</em>, we’re diving into a word that many of us tiptoe around...</p><p><strong>God.</strong></p><p>Is it <em>God</em> with a big G tied to organized religion?<br>Is it <em>god</em> as in “something greater than me”?<br>Or do you prefer words like <strong>Universe, Source, Spirit, Mother Earth, the stars</strong>?</p><p>This episode features two guests from different walks of life: </p><ul><li><p><strong>Nele Zeeh</strong> – former founder of World of Cacao, who spent years in new age and spiritual circles before an unexpected experience changed everything for her. </p></li><li><p><strong>Deacon Court Shields</strong> – a Catholic deacon from St. Teresa’s Parish in Harvard, MA, who has devoted his life to serving others through faith and community.</p></li></ul><p>Together, we explore:</p><ul><li><p>The idea of <strong>“Big G” vs “little g”</strong> and how language shapes our relationship with the divine</p></li><li><p>Why so many modern spiritual seekers say <em>Universe</em> or <em>Source</em> instead of <em>God</em></p></li><li><p>Nele’s story of moving from endless seeking and “new age” practices into a grounded, personal relationship with God</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>How community, belonging, doubt, and courage all play into whether we feel safe using the word <em>God</em></p></li><li><p>What it might look like to simply be curious—without pressure to believe a certain way</p></li></ul><p>This conversation is not a debate, but an invitation to:</p><ul><li><p>Notice how the word <em>God </em>lands in your body</p></li><li><p>Reflect on your own story with spirituality, religion, or both</p></li><li><p>Consider the role of <strong>hope, faith, and community</strong> in your life right now</p></li><li><p>Explore what you truly believe—beyond labels and expectations</p></li></ul><p>Listen now and reflect with us on your own terms.</p><p><strong>About Anabel</strong></p><ul><li>Visit <a href="http://www.nunatherapy.com/" target="_blank">www.nunatherapy.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nunatherapy/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nunatherapy/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nunatx/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/nunatx/</a></li></ul><p>NOTE: The information shared in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered medical or professional advice. Always consult with a qualified healthcare provider, therapist, or other professional before starting any new routines, practices, or making decisions based on the content of this podcast.</p>