Chaotic Philanthropy: Saint Joan of the Golden Arches

Thanks to her McDonald’s fortune, Joan Kroc was one of the world’s wealthiest people. And she was determined to die nearly broke.

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Special thanks to our guests Lisa Napoli, Dick Starmann, and Stephanie Bergsma. Go check out Lisa's excellent book Ray & Joan.

Hosted by Dana Schwartz, Zaron Burnett, and Jason English

Written by Jake Rossen

Senior Producer is Josh Fisher

Editing and Sound Design by Chris Childs

Additional Editing by Mary Dooe

Mixing and Mastering by Josh Fisher

Original Music by Elise McCoy

Show Logo by Lucy Quintanilla

Executive Producer is Jason English