
← We're Not Marketers14 May · 50 min
How a Guy Who Graded Film Got Tricked Into Product Marketing w/ Jason Druss
Jason Druss spent 15 years being the customer — a film colorist at Warner Bros, NFL Films, and his own Philly boutique — before Adobe pulled him into product marketing for Premier Pro and After Effects. In this episode, Jason (Principal Product Marketing Manager, Adobe) drops his takes: why workflow isn't a buzzword when you've actually lived it, how his team runs a private WhatsApp group with hundreds of users, and why being your own ICP is both a superpower and a trap.
If you've ever felt like a fraud talking about users you've never met, this one's for you.
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Why "customer" gives Jason the ick (and what word he uses instead)
The PMM job is 50% talking to users — not Slack, not slides, not strategy decks
How Adobe's PMM team gets buy-in before a feature exists, not after
The Tarantino move: why Jason starts every story at the end
Being your own ICP is a cheat code… until it makes you look like a fanboy at annual planning
The exact reason Frame.io's Camera to Cloud killed an industry workflow that hadn't changed since 1920
Why every PMM should buy a pillow with their product's logo on it (yes, really)
The unsexy truth about "creative freedom" — you have to earn it with data first
How Jason found his PMM job: he wasn't looking, his mentor was watching his LinkedIn posts