A Layered Stewed Sweetness: Jackfruit Payasam Made Local

Cookbook author and former restaurateur Dhershini Winodan tells us how she has adapted jackfruit payasam, a common Malayalee dessert, by using local elements like gula melaka. She also talks about growing up in the Telecoms quarters in Yio Chu Kang and how the Malayalee community in Singapore has changed over time.

Dhershini Govin Winodan is a former restaurateur who started Chat Masala along Upper East Coast Road. Her latest book, My Long Table: Recipes & Memories (2023), contains over 130 recipes from Indian classics to popular international dishes, and the stories behind them. She has written articles for magazines like Her World, and appeared on radio and TV shows, including the episode “Indian Upma with a Twist” on the YouTube series Woking with Sunshine.

What Dhershini Talked About02:41 – Why jackfruit payasam is unusual03:20 – What is payasam made of04:12 – Using coconut milk in payasam04:27 –Jackfruit payasam in Kerala08:38 – Malayali cuisine in Singapore vs Kerala09:19 – Malayali weddings in Singapore12:08 – Malayali festivals beyond Onam15:24 – Managing jackfruit19:27 – The legend of payasam and Lord Krishna21:32 – Types of jackfruit for cooking22:21 – How using the bronze urli pot makes a difference24:03 – Ingredients that make her jackfruit payasam special27:14 – How Dhershini learnt to cook29:02 – Why she came up with the name for her restaurant Chat Masala31:40 – About her book My Long Table36:53 – How Malayali food is different from other Indian regional cuisines38:26 – What Malayali food means to Dhershini

Transcript and ResourcesRead the transcript: https://biblioasia.nlb.gov.sg/all-sections/podcast-a-layered-stewed-sweetness-jackfruit-payasam-made-localWatch Dhershini make jackfruit payasam: https://biblioasia.nlb.gov.sg/all-sections/video-jackfruit-payasam

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This episode of BiblioAsia Podcast was hosted by Jimmy Yap and produced by Soh Gek Han. Sound engineering was done by Nookcha Films. The background music “Di Tanjong Katong” was composed by Ahmad Patek and performed by Chords Haven. Special thanks to Dhershini for coming on the show.

Produced by the National Library Singapore, the BiblioAsia Podcast tells stories about Singapore history.