Breathing's Two Biggest Voices on the Power of Breath: Patrick McKeown & James Nestor

Patrick McKeown and James Nestor meet face-to-face for the first time to discuss the science of breathing, functional breathing methods, and how nasal breathing transforms sleep, health, and well-being.

After years of correspondence—Zoom calls, Instagram Lives, emails, voice notes—they finally sit down together. What was meant to be one episode ran long. They kept talking well into dinner.

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:44 Introduction and meeting face-to-face

00:04:21 How the book almost became something completely different

00:08:48 Why breathing science has been overlooked by medicine

00:13:45 The role of the nose in breathing

00:18:54 Revisiting the book and updating the science

00:23:40 CO2: Why it's essential for health

00:28:33 The challenge of getting people to change their breathing

00:35:09 Daily breathing habits and personal routines

00:44:29 The power of breathing less