Miles Hubley, Tommy White and Scott Waugh

The Runner screenplay was good enough to make the 2023 Black List. It was also, as its director puts it, unmakeable: a car chase at night, in the rain, through Los Angeles, with a mudslide shutting down the 101.

Screenwriters Miles Hubley and Tommy White, along with director Scott Waugh (Need for Speed), sit down with Brian and Bailey to discuss Runner (Angel Studios, starring Alan Ritchson and Owen Wilson), the eleven-year road to their first produced feature, and what happened along the way.

What are the two kinds of screenwriting, and how does the second make everything besides the dialogue irrelevant? How do you write a chase scene through a city you’ve never set foot in? What happens when Owen Wilson pictures his character as a bon vivant in a Panama hat? What do you say when your director pitches an ending you can’t bear, but your star loves it?

And how could the best thing for a screenwriter be finally having a boss?

It’s a first-ever podcast appearance for Miles and Tommy, and Scott is right there to make sure it doesn’t go to their heads. All three have plenty to say about egos, trust, over-writing, and why the only script worth writing is the one that feels true.

Produced by Brian Landwehr and Bailey Patterson.