
← Sounds of SAND17 sept · 1 h 01 min
Nuance of Wonder: Joan Tollifson
Joan Tollifson returns to the podcast three years after her first conversation. We talk about her June essay Two Inseparable Truths, on the relative and the absolute and the trouble with getting stuck in either one. Along the way: the silence of many nondual teachers in a dark time, what cancer and an aging body insist on that philosophy cannot, and why "I don't know" may be the answer closest to truth. She closes by reading her essay 'Radiant Light in Dark Times' in full.
Topics
00:00 Introduction
00:04 From political movements to the Zen Center
00:06 Politics on Substack, and what bypassing looks like
00:11 Two inseparable truths: stuck in the relative, stuck in the absolute
00:19 Why she refuses final conclusions
00:21 Old age, sickness and death as visceral teaching
00:25 Cancer and what the body insists on
00:28 Zooming out and zooming in: two ways through pain
00:33 Why she has never used AI for writing
00:39 Siri, and what a machine can evoke