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Being Safe People - with Cath Blayney
<p>In this episode of Speaking of Inclusion... I am joined by <strong>Cath Blayney</strong>, a liberation coach for black and brown leaders and an allyship coach for white coaches, consultants, and healers.</p><p>Cath and I first met when she approached me on LinkedIn about my own behaviour and language... a story you can hear more about in this episode! </p><p>Together, we explore what it really means to be a "safe person" rather than just creating so-called safe spaces. Our conversation weaves through stories of vulnerability, identity, race, and the everyday realities of allyship… both its challenges and its power.</p><p><br></p><p>Cath generously shares her journey, from working with head teachers in education to supporting anti-racism in organisations, and how her own mixed heritage informsher work. We discuss how organisations and individuals can move beyond platitudes and box-ticking exercises, towards honest self-reflection and genuine behavioural change. </p><p>We also talk through our own learning moments, including times when mistakes have been made in the name of inclusion, and what it takes to lean into the discomfort thatbrings.</p><p><br></p><p>Here are three key takeaways from this episode:</p><p>1. Safe spaces are only as meaningful as the people within them. It’s about cultivating safe people equipped with the self-awareness and capacity to handle discomfort and challenge, not just sticking a label on a meeting or group</p><p>2. Emotions like shame, guilt, and defensiveness are not negative in themselves, they’re valuable data to be processed, not blockers to growth</p><p>3. There is no “completion” in personal or organisational anti-racism work. Instead, it’s a continual process of reflecting, regulating, and learning from mistakes, especially when those lessons are uncomfortable</p><p><br></p><p>As you listen to today’s episode, consider this question:<br>How do you respond (physically and emotionally) when someone challenges your perspective on inclusion or calls attention to mistakes you might have made?</p><p><br></p><p>Cath can be contacted in the following ways:</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inclusiveleadershipcoaching/</p><p>Website: </p><p>www.InclusiveLeadershipCoaching.co.uk</p><p><br></p><p>If you’d like to support the podcast and help keep these honest conversations going, you can buy me a virtual coffee at coff.ee/speakingofinclusion.</p><p><br></p><p>Speaking of Inclusion is hosted by Katie Allen. Katie is a specialist inclusion consultant and confidence coach, offering a no BS approach to DEI and helping people become more confident in important human conversations.<br><a href="http://www.KatieAllenConsulting.com" target="_blank">www.KatieAllenConsulting.com</a><br>Theme music is courtesy of Epidemic Sounds - "No Drama" by Alder</p>