Gregg Deal Fights Fascism w/ Dead Pioneers' Wagon Burner

Jason and Paul welcome Dead Pioneers' founder and vocalist Gregg Deal back to the show to discuss their new album Wagon Burner. Gregg discusses songwriting in the United States in 2026, educating versus entertaining and why it's not his responsibility for you to "get it". It's a great conversation fit for a commencement speech and anyone who wants to punch nazis. Wagon Burner is out June 26.

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