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<html><h3><strong>You're listening to Burnt Toast. I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. </strong>Today is the second part of my conversation with Savala Nolan<strong>.</strong></h3><p>Savala is a writer, public speaker and professor at UC Berkeley. Her brand new book, <em><strong><a href="https://splitrockbooks.com/book/9780063320086" target="_blank">Good Woman: A Reckoning</a></strong></em> is out now. </p><p>Her first book, <em><a href="https://splitrockbooks.com/book/9781982137281" target="_blank">Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body</a></em>, was shortlisted for the William Saroyan Prize and celebrated as a “standout collection” by the <em>New York Times</em>. Savala's writing has been featured in <em>Vogue</em>, <em>Harper’s Magazine</em>, the <em>New York Times</em>, <em>NPR</em>, <em>TIME</em> and more.</p><p>Today is the second part of my conversation with Savala. In <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/151494945" target="_blank">part one</a>, we talked about bodies, race and gender. Today in part two, we're getting into sex, divorce and classy and trashy Butters. </p><h3>This conversation is for paid subscribers only, so go to <a href="https://patreon.com/virginiasolesmith" target="_blank">patreon.com/virginiasolesmith</a> to join us. Membership starts at just $5 per month. You're not going to want to miss this one.</h3><p>One last thing! If you order <em>Good Woman</em> from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book <em>Fat Talk</em> from them. Go to <a href="https://splitrockbooks.com/" target="_blank">Split Rock Books</a> and use the code "fat talk" at checkout.</p><p><strong>Here's Savala.</strong></p><div>You need to be a paid Just Toast subscriber to listen to this full conversation. Membership starts at just $5 per month!<br/><a href="https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/join">Join Just Toast!</a></div><p style="text-align: center">🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈🧈</p><h3>Episode 237 Transcript</h3><p><strong>Virginia </strong></p><p>All right, we've got to talk about men a little bit.</p><p><strong>Savala </strong></p><p>Do we have to? No, I'm kidding. I love them.</p><p><strong>Virginia </strong></p><p>I really questioned whether we did. You write really well about men in this book. You articulate a lot about a certain kind of man that is going to be very familiar to a lot of our listeners. You call him the "<strong>voting booth feminist</strong>." Define voting booth feminist and tell us how that particular type of man, perhaps without realizing it, contributes to this narrative about what a "good woman" should be.</p><p><strong>Savala </strong></p><p>Well, the voting booth feminist is alive and well, Virginia. I was married to one.</p></html>