Balancing a path between giants in a changing world order

<p>How Australia and New Zealand face the same issues in a challenging international scene, and where they differ in their approaches</p><p><strong><em>Australia is balancing a path between attracting ire from the Trump regime and retaliation from China - but not saying anything is a risky strategy</em></strong></p><p>Find The Detail on <a href="https://newsroom.co.nz/category/podcasts/podcast-the-detail/">Newsroom</a> or <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/thedetail">RNZ</a></p><p><a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/the-detail?share=4e5b74ab-69c4-4ce2-8d9a-28614af9425a">Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details</a></p>