Panterafi from Project 0: "If you can't trust the protocols, then DeFi is dead" - EP23

<p>In this episode we spoke with Pantera (Project 0) on TradFi → crypto, the Marginfi → Project 0 evolution, unified margin across Kamino/Drift/Jupiter, spread &amp; looping strategies, where DeFi yield comes from, bear-market rates, Drift &amp; protocol risk, stablecoins, RWAs, narrative cycles, Zero Pay (spend against your portfolio), and what&#39;s coming next on P0.</p><p>https://x.com/panterafii</p><p>https://app.0.xyz</p><p>https://x.com/project0</p>