
← The Remarkable Leadership Podcast30 sept · 37 min
The Science to Resilient Optimism with Michelle Gielan
What does it take to stay optimistic when life is difficult, uncertain, or simply not going according to plan? Kevin sits down with Michelle Gielan to explore the science of resilient optimism. Michelle shares that optimism is more than a feeling; it is a set of behaviors leaders can practice even when they don't feel positive. Michelle explains how resilient optimism combines a realistic view of challenges with the belief that our actions can make a difference. Michelle also shares practical strategies for triaging commitments based on impact rather than urgency, creating opportunities to truly recharge, and developing a simple "best moments" practice that trains the brain to notice progress and possibility.
Listen For 0:00 Putting Resilience and Optimism Together
1:25 Meet Michelle Gielan
2:45 From Computer Engineer to CBS News Anchor
5:38 Why Michelle Wrote Resilient Optimism
8:18 What Resilient Optimism Is (and Isn't)
10:58 You Don't Have to Feel Optimistic to Act Like an Optimist
12:12 How Optimism Compounds Over Time
15:43 Becoming a Positive Deviant as a Leader
17:47 Case Study: The 10-Minute Morning Meeting
19:42 Case Study: Well-Being First in a School District
21:43 Triaging Your Commitments