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How To Build A Business That Beats Giants Like Airbnb | Co-Founder of Kindred, Justine Palefsky
<p>Justine Palefsky co-founded Kindred by cold-emailing a spreadsheet full of her old colleagues' spare rooms. Four years later it's a $150M-backed home-swapping network with 400,000 members who've hosted each other for half a million nights, and she still checks herself in the mirror every morning and says: don't mess this up.Justine Palefsky is co-founder and CEO of Kindred, a members-only home-swapping community she launched in 2021 with co-founder Tasneem "Taz" Amina. Kindred has raised roughly $150 million in funding, including backing from Andreessen Horowitz, and has grown to around 400,000 members and 100 employees, with members hosting one another for over half a million nights. Justine grew up in San Francisco, raised by parents embedded in the city's counterculture scene, studied cognitive neuroscience at Brown, worked in management consulting at Bain & Company, then spent years at Opendoor and Homebound before founding Kindred out of her own frustration with the cost of living and traveling between the cities she loved.In this episode:- Why her parents' completely rule-free upbringing left her with a chip on her shoulder to prove she wasn't "too soft"- The chaos of her first day at Opendoor, including a same-day flight to Phoenix and a night on an air mattress with no Wi-Fi- Why Kindred deliberately built a model where members can't pay each other, and how that's different from Airbnb- The five days she and her co-founder spent alone in a cabin pressure-testing their partnership before starting the company- What building a $150M company has actually cost her, from missed birthdays to freezing embryosChapters0:00 "The Last Time I Made An Introduction Like This, It Became TikTok"4:39 Her Parents Only Rule: Talk To Us First7:02 The Chip On Her Shoulder About Being "Too Soft"7:45 Why She Chose The Hardest Degree She Could Find11:19 The City Literally Built On Burned Boats19:46 "Promise Me You'll Never Be A Corporate Dog"27:14 Flown To Phoenix On Day One, Sleeping On An Air Mattress54:59 Keeping Hope Alive When Everyone Says Your Idea Sucks57:31 The Spreadsheet That Sparked A $150M Idea1:01:39 Almost Everybody Told Her It Would Never Work1:03:39 Why Kindred Refuses To Let Members Pay Each Other1:07:50 Five Days In A Cabin To Test If They Could Be Co-Founders1:22:34 The Moment She Knew Kindred Had Gone Viral1:37:12 What Building A $150M Company Actually Cost