Sales Is a Game: Sabrina Victoria on Money, Community, and Doing Hard Things Together

A few years ago, Heather met Sabrina Victoria — and she didn't yet know how much that meeting would impact her art business and her life. In this episode, Sabrina, founder of House of Velani, shares the story behind her work:

Becoming a single mom at 20 and losing her entire family and community, building a 150-person door-to-door sales organization, pivoting overnight when COVID hit, and interviewing over 800 women on her own podcast.

Heather and Sabrina talk candidly about trusting your gut and taking swift action, giving yourself permission to quit

What isn't aligned, why “solopreneur” is a lie that keeps women small, and how to make sales feel like a game instead of a grind. It's a conversation about survival, community, and what becomes possible when women stop doing hard things alone.

Episode Outline

Welcome + intro: how Heather and Sabrina's first meeting changed everything

Sabrina's mission: helping women get seen, heard, and paid

Becoming a single mom at 20 and losing her family and community

The polarizing difference between doing hard things alone vs. in community

What 800+ interviews taught Sabrina about whose story is “hard”

Trusting your gut and taking swift, decisive action

The “unfinished book” epiphany — giving yourself permission to quit