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Seth Johnson on Earning the Right to Change Things

Seth Johnson on Earning the Right to Change Things2 juin49 min

<p>What does it actually take for design to matter inside a massive organization? In this episode, hosts Giulia Donatello and Lee-Sean Huang sit down with Seth Johnson to talk about design at enterprise scale, and what designers get wrong about building influence.</p><p><br></p><p>Seth Johnson is Design Director at IBM&#39;s Chief Data Office, where he leads a team driving AI-first enterprise data transformation. Over a 12-year tenure at IBM, his work has evolved from designing artifacts and experiences toward designing the conditions under which good design can happen at scale. Before IBM, he founded a Minneapolis-based design practice. He has served as president of AIGA Minnesota and as an adjunct faculty member at Parsons School of Design.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>In This Episode</strong></p><p><strong>From a used bookshop to IBM</strong>. Seth&#39;s path to design started at age 12, flipping through Dorfsman &amp; CBS in a used bookshop, and seeing for the first time what design could look like as a system at scale. That same impulse, he says, is what he&#39;s still chasing at IBM, just at a different altitude.<br></p><p><strong>Design as infrastructure. </strong>At IBM&#39;s Chief Data Office, Seth&#39;s team exists to provide the company with a single, trusted view of how the business is performing. Design&#39;s role there is turning data from something people dread into something they rely on every day.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>The business doesn&#39;t care about design. And it shouldn&#39;t. </strong>Seth&#39;s most provocative argument: design only earns influence when it connects itself to outcomes leadership actually cares about: revenue, risk, speed, and fewer defects. Designers are always outnumbered. That means assimilating into the organization&#39;s dominant rhythms before earning the right to ask anyone else to change.<br></p><p><strong>Treat your team like volunteers. </strong>Seth&#39;s core leadership philosophy, drawn from years of running AIGA Minnesota: talented people decide every day how much energy and creativity they&#39;re willing to invest. You might get the work, but you won&#39;t get the commitment. And you definitely can&#39;t fake caring at scale.<br></p><p><strong>The era of the lone genius is over. </strong>On design education: Seth argues that schools still do a reasonable job of preparing designers to work independently, but fall short in preparing them to lead within teams. Design is a team sport, and design students s