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Stop Building AI Agents. Build AI Employees Instead (Live Demo) | Pedro Franceschi

Stop Building AI Agents. Build AI Employees Instead (Live Demo) | Pedro Franceschi13 sept.48 min

<p>Pedro is widely respected as one of the most AI-pilled CEOs out there. His hot take is that “agents” is a terrible name. Instead, he showed me what you should build: AI employees that have a defined job, skills, manager, and budget. Pedro also did a live demo of how he still uses OpenClaw to stay on top of his $5B business.</p><p><br></p><p>Pedro and I talked about:</p><p><br></p><p>(00:00) Build AI employees, not AI agents</p><p>(05:23) Why Pedro spends half his time reviewing work</p><p>(12:32) Live demo: Jim, Brex’s AI recruiting employee</p><p>(21:24) Why Brex makes engineers build with AI in interviews</p><p>(22:33) CrabTrap: How to stop AI employees from leaking data</p><p>(27:30) The tokenmaxxing bill is coming. Here’s how to control it</p><p>(40:45) Live demo: Pedro’s OpenClaw system runs his life</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks to our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>Riverside: All-in-one AI studio for podcasts and video <a href="https://creators.riverside.com/PeterYang">https://creators.riverside.com/PeterYang</a></p><p><br></p><p>Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams <a href="https://linear.app/behind-the-craft">https://linear.app/behind-the-craft</a></p><p><br></p><p>📌 Get the takeaways: <a href="https://creatoreconomy.so/p/stop-building-ai-agents-build-ai-employees-insead-pedro-franceschi-brex">https://creatoreconomy.so/p/stop-building-ai-agents-build-ai-employees-insead-pedro-franceschi-brex</a></p><p><br></p><p>Where to find Pedro:</p><p><br></p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/pedroh96">https://x.com/pedroh96</a></p><p><br></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pfranceschi/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/pfranceschi/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!</p>