We Moved Past You (Colin Kaepernick/Jay-Z

SAY LESS, SAY MORE — EPISODE 40: WE'VE MOVED PAST YOU

This week on the Say Less, Say More Podcast, the crew tackles one of the most complicated questions surrounding Colin Kaepernick's legacy:

Is Colin Kaepernick an activist, a grifter, or a symbol whose message has outgrown the man himself?

Ten years after Kaepernick became one of America's most recognizable athlete-activists, the crew asks what comes next. Is activism about remaining visible, or can the work continue without the activist constantly being in front of the camera? What is Kaepernick actually asking people to DO today? And when does monetizing activism become turning activism into a business?

We also put Kaepernick's legacy up against Jay-Z's argument that "we've moved past kneeling" and ask the uncomfortable question: What comes after the symbol?

Then we take the conversation even further:

🔥 THE KAEPERNICK HYPOTHETICAL: If the NFL had allowed Kaepernick back into the league, would his activism have looked the same?

⚖️ THE COUNTERARGUMENT: Are we confusing visibility with activism? If Know Your Rights Camp continues doing the work when the cameras aren't around, what more are we actually demanding from Kaepernick?

🎤 THE FINAL QUESTION: If Colin Kaepernick had never kneeled in 2016, but we were shown only his body of work from the ten years since, would we identify him as an activist?

Before the Main Event, the crew gets into:

❤️ RELATIONSHIPS: Can your friends be alone with your spouse? Where does healthy friendship end and inappropriate boundaries begin?

🌐 SOCIAL MEDIA: How fake are you allowed to be online? We discuss the Daejon Love case and the increasingly blurry line between curating your life and completely fabricating one.