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Jared Dillian: The Awesome Portfolio: Why Smoother Returns Beat Bigger Ones
<p>My guest today is Jared Dillian—former Lehman Brothers index-arbitrage and ETF trader, founder of the 18-year-old professional market letter <em>The Daily Dirtnap</em>, registered CTA, author of seven books, and an unusually multidimensional market thinker whose work joins macro trading, practical personal finance, risk control, writing, mental health, and electronic music.</p><p>Today, are we talking about his new book The Awesome Portfolio, a simple, stress-free approach to investing.</p><p>Episode Sponsor: Fiscal AI is a modern data terminal that gives investors instant access to twenty years of financials, earnings transcripts, and extensive segment and KPI data—use my link for a two-week free trial plus 15% off: <a href="https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://fiscal.ai/talkingbillions/</a>Jared unpacks the origin of The Awesome Portfolio — born from testing model portfolios with a subscriber-turned-advisor, later validated by Nick Maggiulli's own optimization research.</p><p>Core thesis: "to make people make stupid decisions" is, in Jared's telling, the whole purpose of volatility — Vanguard's own data shows investors rarely capture the returns their funds actually post.</p><p>Vanguard's "advisor alpha": simply having someone stop you from trading boosts returns by 3%. But Jared argues even a good advisor can't erase the stress of a 50% drawdown.</p><p>The Awesome Portfolio's worst-ever year: down 12%, versus an 89% max drawdown for the S&P since 1929. "Drawdowns affect psychology."</p><p>The "life hedge": your job and the market tend to move together, amplifying your life's volatility. The ideal hedge would move opposite — nothing fully does.</p><p>Risk of ruin, via a $300M Powerball thought experiment: "wealthy people think about the risk of ruin and middle-class people don't."</p><p>Reflexivity: the top 7 stocks make up 35% of the index, so buying the index means buying concentration.</p><p>The five 20% slices — stocks, bonds, gold, cash, real estate — rebalanced once a year, deliberately simple.</p><p>Why crypto got cut: even a small Bitcoin allocation would dominate investor attention and undercut the whole stress-free premise.</p><p>Stress-tested against a literal nuclear war, Jared still can't find a scenario where all five assets fail together.</p><p>Closing candor: "Books succeed when they tell people things they al