Episode 131 with Carter Shaw

<p>This conversation follows Mike Goldstein and guest Carter Shaw as Carter shares his path through fire service, military service, and the devastating loss of his lieutenant and close friend, Kyle Hines, to suicide. </p><p>The episode turns a personal tragedy into a practical warning about what to look for, how departments miss signs, and why peer support and therapy cannot be an afterthought.</p><p>Carter Shaw brings firsthand experience from the fire service, the military, and a deeply personal recovery process. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Introduction and episode overview</p><p>01:59 Carter Shaw&#39;s background and journey into the fire service</p><p>04:00 What draws people to the fire service and the mindset required</p><p>06:02 The challenge of separating personal life from firefighting</p><p>09:01 Signs leading up to the suicide of Carter’s lieutenant</p><p>14:06 The traumatic call and its impact on Carter and his team</p><p>20:06 The warning signs and mental health struggles of Carter’s lieutenant</p><p>23:55 Department response, debriefing, and resources available</p><p>30:05 The importance of mental health support and seeking help</p><p>39:58 Carter’s personal recovery and ongoing mental health journey</p><p>49:55 Resources for first responders and their families</p><p>57:11 Final thoughts and message of hope and support</p><p><br></p><p>Frontline Strong-</p><p><a href="https://fst5.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://fst5.org/</a></p><p><br></p><p>NextRung-</p><p><a href="https://www.nextrung.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://www.nextrung.org/</a></p><p><br></p><p>First Responder Center For Excellence-</p><p><a href="https://firstrespondercenter.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://firstrespondercenter.org/</a></p><p><br></p><p>The Energy Drink-Use Nozzle Tov for 20% off</p><p><a href="https://theenergydrink.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">https://theenergydrink.com/</a></p>