“Solidarity Has To Have Teeth”: Palestine, Abolition, and Building Struggle Across Borders — with Noura & F12

<p>In this episode of <b>The Dugout</b>, we sit down with organizers <b>Noura and F12</b> for a conversation about Palestine, abolition, Afropessimism, international solidarity, and what it actually takes to sustain struggle.</p><p><br></p><p>What does it mean to travel to Palestine without romanticizing struggle? What is “protective presence,” and what can international organizers actually offer communities living under occupation? How does the occupation control not only land and movement, but people's relationship to <b>time, planning, and the future itself</b>?</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p>About the Guests</p><p><br></p><p><b>Noura</b> is an Oakland-based Palestinian American organizer. The daughter of refugees from the 1967 War, she has spent over two decades in international solidarity and non-violent direct action. She spent years organizing with the Stop Urban Shield Coalition to successfully dismantle militarized police expos in California.</p><p><b>Noura Instagram:</b> @bint_fulusteen</p><p><b>Faz3a Pal Instagram:</b> @faz3a_pal</p><p><br></p><p><b>F12</b> is a Sacramento-based Black radical organizer, writer, and abolitionist. After spending 14 years incarcerated, they expanded their work into internationalist solidarity, engaging in hands-on protective presence work in the West Bank, and much more.</p><p><b>F12 Substack:</b> <a href='https://substack.com/@toussaintf12'>https://substack.com/@toussaintf12</a></p><p><b>F12 Instagram:</b> @toussaintf12</p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p><b>BOOKS & MEDIA MENTIONED</b></p><ul><li><b>George Jackson — </b><b><i>Blood in My Eye</b></i></li><li><b>Anarcho-Blackness</b></li><li><b>Stolen Youth: The Politics of Israel’s Detention of Palestinian Children</b></li><li><b>The Life and Work of George Jackson</b> — Anasi’s Library documentary</li></ul><p><br></p><p>--------------------------------------------</p><p><b>0:00</b> — Intro: What does solidarity actually demand of us in moments of crisis?</p><p><b>2:37</b> — Introductions: Nora and F12</p><p><b>3:04</b> — "What was young you like?"</p><p><b>11:39</b> — Follow-up: Was your depoliticization tied to familial trauma and survival/assimilation?</p><p><b>17:24</b> — What brought you into a deeper, lifelong organizing practice?</p><p><b>26:47</b> — How did you each first start getting involved with the Palestinian liberation movement?</p><p><b>43:52</b> — Can you talk about how the opportunity to go to Palestine cam