
← The Earth Set Podcast18 mai · 48 min
Decarbonise or Deindustrialise? Is This Really the Choice Facing Britain?
<p>This week’s episode comes from Octopus Energy HQ where <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-rennison-409680106/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Amy Rennison</a> is joined by <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-cohen-511b6147/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phil Cohen</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-matthewson-4808b4128/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patrick Matthewson</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-f-1027635/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Rachel Fletcher</a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aruna-ramsamy-646a072/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Aruna Ramsamy</a>.</p><p>The conversation explores a growing tension at the heart of the UK’s industrial strategy: the push to decarbonise heavy industry is running directly into some of the highest industrial electricity prices in the OECD. Across steel, chemicals, manufacturing and energy-intensive production, the technologies for deep decarbonisation increasingly exist — but the economics, infrastructure and policy frameworks are not yet aligned to deploy them at scale.</p><p>What emerges is not a simple trade-off between climate ambition and industrial survival, but a more complex systems problem: fragmented policy design, high energy system costs, and weak demand signals are all shaping investment decisions in ways that risk slowing both electrification and industrial renewal. Against this backdrop, international examples like Sweden’s H2 Green Steel highlight how low-cost power, coordinated policy and long-term offtake agreements can unlock entirely new industrial ecosystems.</p><p>The central question becomes whether the UK can correct these structural issues quickly enough to prevent a gradual erosion of its industrial base while still pursuing net zero.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>In This Episode You'll Learn:</strong></p><p>• Why UK industrial electricity prices are among the highest in Europe and how policy costs, network investment and market design contribute to them</p><p>• How energy-intensive sectors like steel, chemicals and glass are already experiencing output declines linked to the energy crisis</p><p>• Why electrification is widely seen as the main route to industrial decarbonisation, despite technical limits in some high-temperature processes</p><p>• How fragmented policy between energy, industrial strategy and regulation is slowing investment and creating unc