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How Water Powers Cellular Energy & Human Health | Dr. Gerald Pollack

How Water Powers Cellular Energy & Human Health | Dr. Gerald Pollack5 avr. 20252 h 01 min

<p>In this episode, my guest is Dr. Gerald Pollack, a renowned professor of bioengineering at the University of Washington and founding editor-in-chief of the journal Water. Dr. Pollack is widely recognized for his groundbreaking discoveries in cell biology and water science, particularly his identification of the “fourth phase” of water—also known as EZ (exclusion zone) water. His research offers a radical rethinking of how water functions in biological systems, challenging classical theories. </p><p>Today we explore the foundations of Dr. Pollack’s theory, emphasizing the influential research of the late Gilbert Ling. We begin by examining key topics such as the existence of the cell membrane, evidence challenging ATP as the cell’s energy currency, and the disproofs of the membrane-pump theory. We also question conventional models of the atom and consider how Dr. Pollack’s findings connect to these paradigm shifts. Finally, we discuss the discoveries from Dr. Pollack’s lab and their far-reaching implications for biology and human health.</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zSll1t3Gdvwg_xmV9YofkuGwrhYDe7vAuEsE54dardU/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank"><b>Full Show Notes Here. </b></a></p><p>Follow The Whole Health Podcast on Instagram <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/wholehealthpod/" target="_blank">@wholehealthpod</a></p><p><b><i>Timestamps </i></b></p><p>00:00:00 Introduction </p><p>00:00:17 Welcome </p><p>00:02:09 Sponsor: Biojit </p><p>00:03:26 Dr. Gerald Pollack</p><p>00:03:47 Love for Science </p><p>00:09:35 Questioning the Textbook and Our Understanding of Water </p><p>00:15:07 Jerry’s Teaching Methods </p><p>00:17:00 Herold Hillman: Does the Cell Membrane Exist?</p><p>00:22:13 Gilbert Ling </p><p>00:23:26 Ling’s Theory of Water </p><p>00:26:26 Writing Cells, Gels, and the Engines of Life </p><p>00:27:27 The Association-Induction Hypothesis </p><p>00:30:12 Independent Disproofs Against the Membrane-Pump Theory </p><p>00:31:28 Podolsky &amp; Morales: There is no “High Energy Phosphate Bond” in ATP</p><p>00:35:24 ATP as a Cardinal Absorbent </p><p>00:36:12 Ling’s Stacked Dipole Theory and Why it is Not Accurate </p><p>00:40:45 Gilbert Ling’s Inventions, MRI, etc. </p><p>00:41:49 EZ Water Electrical Charge </p><p>00:43:56 EZ Creating a Battery and its Implications for Cellular Energetics </p><p>00:46:02 Infrared Light Powers the Battery </p><p>00:51:12 Arturo Herrera