
← This Week in Carbon20 août · 49 min
Inside the Integrity Crisis: What Nature-Based Carbon Markets Still Need — Toby Janson-Smith
<p>In this episode of This Week in Carbon, hosts Edward Smith and Rene Velasquez sit down with Toby Janson-Smith, CEO and Co-founder of Credegra, and former Chief Innovation and Program Development Officer at Verra, someone who has spent twenty-five years quite literally building the infrastructure that makes nature-based carbon markets possible.From co-designing the Climate Community and Biodiversity Standards at Conservation International, to architecting the VCS AFOLU framework that became the dominant standard for REDD+, Toby has been at the centre of every major turning point in this market. Now, with Credegra, he's tackling what he sees as the final bottleneck: making the certification process fast, rigorous, and transparent enough to support the scale the market needs.Key topics covered:- Why nature was effectively shut out of both the Kyoto Protocol and the early voluntary carbon market and what it took to change that- The buffer pool approach to permanence: how Verra pioneered the mechanism that made forest carbon fungible with energy and industrial credits- What actually caused the 2023 integrity crisis: not one single failure, but a perfect storm of methodology design gaps, assurance capacity limits, data limitations, and rapid growth converging at once- The baseline problem at the heart of the REDD+ scandal and the specific example of a government change that invalidated an entire project's crediting trajectory years after launch- Dynamic baselines: how reassessing the baseline at every verification cycle transforms the integrity of emission reduction credits- The jurisdictional approach to REDD+: top-down national baselines allocated by risk maps to individual projects and why this aligns with Paris Agreement accounting- Why corporate buyers pivoting away from nature entirely may be one of the biggest strategic mistakes in climate finance- The bathtub analogy: why we can't just "bail out the water" with removals, we have to turn off the spigot too- The equity case for nature-based solutions: why communities in the global south must participate in — and benefit from — carbon markets, not simply bear the costs of climate change- Credegra: how AI is being deployed to help project developers navigate hundreds of complex methodology requirements and dramatically reduce the certification bottleneck at standard-setters- The compliance market bridge: how what the VCM has built can and must be brought into regulated markets to rea