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Jaclyn Lunaas and Chris Macaluso | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership | Ep. 1032

Jaclyn Lunaas and Chris Macaluso | Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership | Ep. 1032il y a 3 jours1 h 08 min

One company owned by Canada’s Cooke Inc. is catching about 70% of all the Atlantic menhaden that can legally be harvested. The fish we love to chase depend on that bait to survive: striped bass, tarpon, redfish, cobia, king mackerel, and bluefin tuna all rely on menhaden, and so do ospreys and whales.

I sat down with Chris Macaluso and Jaclyn Lunaas of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership (TRCP) to find out how this works. They explain how Virginia ended up with 75% of the coast-wide quota, and how a leasing loophole lets a foreign-owned company fish under an American flag. We also cover the Louisiana bycatch study, which estimated that 140 to 160 million additional fish are killed in a single Gulf season, including about 30,000 redfish and 250,000 speckled trout.

We get into the science too. Regulators found that the Atlantic menhaden population had been overestimated by about 40%. The science called for a cut of more than 50%, but the commission took only a 20% cut for 2026. In the Gulf, Louisiana and Mississippi have no catch limits at all.

Most importantly, Chris and Jaclyn explain what you can do about it, even if you never catch a striped bass in your life.

Learn more and sign the petition: trcp.org/foragefishrecovery

Chapters

00:00 One company is catching most of the menhaden

01:04 Meet Chris Macaluso & Jaclyn Lunaas of TRCP

05:20 Why menhaden are “the most important fish in the sea”

06:54 The reduction industry: fish meal, fish oil & pet food

09:22 Migration and the predators that follow menhaden

11:26 Pogey boats, spotter planes & the Gulf bycatch study