Episode 57 - The Radical Joy of Receiving the Truth That Sets You Free

In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen keep the conversation going in their first intentional audio-only episode — live from Nikki’s mother-in-law’s closet in Oregon and fully committed to staying out of office, even off-camera.

The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and letting the conversation unfold from there. Nikki is busy watching QVC and reflecting on the unexpected entertainment value of daytime television, while Jayne shares a deeper lesson from her own QVC experience — that manifestation requires aiming beyond the moment you think you want, because getting exactly what you asked for is not always the same as arriving where you’re meant to be.

From there, the conversation moves through beauty, Black history, fitness, haircare, loneliness, friendship, truth-telling, and the discipline of choosing yourself again and again.

I See You GirlJayne’s I See You Girl goes to Chaka Khan, who at 73 is still glowing, radiant, and completely herself. After hearing Chaka casually reveal that her beauty “secret” is simply slathering her face with oil or heavy lotion before bed, Jayne takes the moment as both a practical skincare tip and a broader reminder that consistency, moisture, and keeping it simple may still be some of the best anti-aging wisdom there is.

Nikki spotlights Biddy Mason, the formerly enslaved woman who became one of the wealthiest Black women in Los Angeles. From winning her freedom in court to building a real estate empire, founding institutions, and leaving behind a legacy of generosity and civic power, Biddy Mason becomes this week’s reminder that Black history is full of women who transformed survival into ownership, influence, and lasting community impact.

What We’re On Right NowNikki is currently on Tae Bo with Billy Blanks, rediscovering the joy of old-school workouts that still get the job done. Between YouTube Tae Bo sessions and figure-eight resistance bands, she’s focused on toning, moving with intention, and reconnecting with a kind of fitness that feels fun, effective, and sustainable.

Jayne is on Cécred, Beyoncé’s haircare line, and specifically has her eye on what appears to be a quietly excellent formulation strategy. After trying the Silk Protein Rinse and reviewing the ingredient deck through the lens of her own beauty industry background, she suspects the line may