
β HashrateUp - A Bitcoin Mining Podcast21 jul Β· 54 min
Why This Miner Refuses to Pivot to AI w/ Raphael Zagury
<p>π GUEST LINKS</p><p>- Raphael Zagury (LinkedIn): https://www.linkedin.com/in/rzagury/</p><p>- Elektron Energy: https://elektronenergy.io/</p><p>- Twitter/X: @alphazeta ("Here Be Dragons" & monthly mining reports)</p><p><br></p><p>π SPONSORED BY</p><p>- Luxor β Mining software, firmware & hashrate tools</p><p> https://luxor.tech/</p><p>- Altair Technology β ASIC hardware, replacement parts & mining infrastructure</p><p> Code: HASHRATEUP</p><p> https://altairtech.io/aff/125/</p><p><br></p><p>π OVERVIEW</p><p>Everyone's leaving Bitcoin mining for AI. Raphael Zagury β co-founder & CEO of Elektron Energy, one of the largest private Bitcoin miners in the world β explains why they're doing the exact opposite.</p><p><br></p><p>We break down the first-ever hash rate bear market: why this cycle feels different, why hash rate has been grinding down since October (not crashing like the China ban), and what happens when 60-70% of machines get wiped out at the next hashprice halving. Raphael makes the contrarian case that right now is one of the best times ever to start mining β if you can survive on the left side of the cost curve.</p><p><br></p><p>We also get into why Elektron refuses to pivot to AI/HPC, how they pitch mining to institutions like Fidelity, the self-correcting mechanism in hashprice, and why stranded energy in Brazil and Africa is the real opportunity nobody's pricing in.</p><p><br></p><p>β± TIMESTAMPS</p><p>0:00 β Intro</p><p>0:47 β World Cup, bear markets & Bitcoin cycles</p><p>2:49 β The first-ever hash rate bear market explained</p><p>3:36 β How this affects one of the largest private miners</p><p>3:53 β Why this isn't the China ban (gradual grind vs sharp drop)</p><p>5:33 β Why miners are fleeing to AI/HPC</p><p>6:50 β Why Elektron sees this as an opportunity</p><p>8:19 β The risks in AI/HPC nobody is pricing</p><p>9:05 β Pitching mining to Fidelity & institutions</p><p>9:30 β Unit economics: mining is still profitable</p><p>10:32 β Cost curve & the self-correcting mechanism</p><p>11:14 β What happens when 60-70% of machines shut off</p><p>13:02 β Why institutions love contrarian miners</p><p>14:37 β The AI pivot & hash rate on the way back up</p><p>16:32 β When does mining beat just buying Bitcoin?</p><p>19:08 β Why this story is so hard to tell investors</p><p>20:25 β Market share, path dependency & hash rate dynamics</p><p>22:20 β Why now is one of the best times to start mining</p><p>22:45 β Capital & capital structure in mining</p><p>23:40 β Why the AI boom will boom and bust</p><p>24:19 β Building the optionality stack around energy</p><p>25:17 β Why AI/HPC innovation is still dangerously early</p><p>28:34 β electronics.dev: open-sourcing mining research</p><p>30:29 β The efficiency curve (log scale) explained</p><p>31:50 β Predicting the S23s with a regression line</p><p>32:14 β Why efficiency gains are about to flatten</p><p>32:42 β Network composition: S19s, S21s, S23s</p><p>33:38 β Machine-by-machine break-evens & cost to mine</p><p>34:58 β What a hashprice halving does to the network</p><p>36:11 β Summer heat & temperature-sensitive machines</p><p>36:36 β The shareholder-money era & underwater machines</p><p>40:17 β Stranded energy: wind in Brazil, curtailment credits</p><p>42:19 β Bitcoin's only customer is the protocol</p><p>42:39 β Old S19s at $30: 6-month ROI vs 10-year energy ROI</p><p>43:11 β Why Raphael is bullish on mining in Africa</p><p>47:28 β Speaking the language of energy & TradFi</p><p>48:08 β Batteries vs miners: a tenth of the capex</p><p>49:54 β "Buyers of last resort, sellers of first resort"</p><p>50:47 β RAPID FIRE: hashprice bottom, recycling, security & Brazil</p><p><br></p><p>π KEY TOPICS</p><p>- The first hash rate bear market β gradual grind vs the China ban shock</p><p>- Why 60-70% of machines could turn off at the next hashprice halving</p><p>- The self-correcting mechanism i