
← Interconnects22 sep · 1 u 05 min
Debating RSI, the US-China Gap, and Jaggedness with JS Denain of Epoch AI
This episode is with Jean-Stanislas “JS” Denain of Epoch AI, who leads their Insights Team and is one of the people I find myself debating the state and trajectory of AI with more and more. We’ve had follow-on discussions of many of my favorite recent posts online and/or in private, so I wanted to dig into the nuance in a public episode.
A big takeaway of this podcast is how JS and I both have so much uncertainty with exactly where we are heading, and this was our best effort at stating our observations today.
Chapters / topics include:
* 00:00 Predictions for RSI
* 18:15 The role of robotics in an AI acceleration
* 24:20 How far behind are Chinese models?
* 27:39 Does distillation explain the gap?
* 40:58 What Chinese job postings reveal about their labs
* 48:13 Are open or closed models safer?
* 58:10 How Epoch AI ticks
* 1:00:55 What a frontier post-training recipe looks like
Enjoy!