Ep. #1132: Jon Mckiel and Jay Crocker

Jon Mckiel and Jay Crocker are here to discuss Gold Horatio, how living in the same town has impacted their musical collaboration, why someone like Jon may possess the “Amherst strut,” how Jay is managing without regular "beach time," why the Shakespearean character Horatio is invoked here, exactly how Jon and Jay work together and who did what on this album, pondering existentialism, theology, reality and internet gurus, the death of Jackie Paper and how children’s observations can be poetic and lyrical, new JOYFULTALK records, upcoming shows, other future plans, and much more.

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