The Difference Between Being Agile And Doing Agile: Tori Sutherland

<p>What separates organisations that deliver from those that stay busy?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of the Everyday Agile Podcast, Jac sits down with digital transformation leader Tori Sutherland to discuss leadership, agile transformation, digital delivery, public-sector transformation, and what organisations need to do to become truly agile.</p><p><br></p><p>Drawing on her experience leading digital public services in the NHS and now working independently, Tori shares insights on:</p><p><br></p><p>✅ Why most organisations focus on the wrong things during agile transformations</p><p>✅ The difference between doing Agile and being Agile</p><p>✅ Leadership behaviours that appear when pressure increases</p><p>✅ Building trust and empowering teams to deliver outcomes</p><p>✅ Why stand-ups and Scrum ceremonies won&#39;t automatically make you faster</p><p>✅ Managing change fatigue and continuous delivery environments</p><p>✅ How to prioritise when everything feels urgent</p><p>✅ Freelancing, burnout recovery and building a sustainable business</p><p><br></p><p>If you&#39;re a leader, transformation professional, Agile Coach, Scrum Master, Product Manager or anyone interested in improving organisational delivery, this episode is packed with practical insights.</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Key Topics</p><p>Agile transformation</p><p>Leadership under pressure</p><p>Digital transformation</p><p>NHS digital delivery</p><p>Organisational design</p><p>High-performing teams</p><p>Product delivery</p><p>Change management</p><p>Continuous improvement</p><p>Public sector transformation</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Connect with Tori</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torisutherland/</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎ Not Another Agile Conference 2027 tickets are now available.</p><p>https://www.tickettailor.com/events/notanotheragileconference/2178867</p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Newsletter </p><p>https://betweenthestandups.substack.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>▶︎Chapters </p><p>00:00 Introduction &amp; Welcome</p><p>00:50 Meet Tori Sutherland</p><p>01:36 Why Tori Chose Digital Transformation</p><p>03:08 What Organisations Get Wrong About Agile</p><p>03:50 Going Freelance Without a Safety Net</p><p>05:10 Why People Should Ask for More Help</p><p>06:09 The Leadership Conversations We Need to Have</p><p>07:12 Are Organisations Really Set Up to Deliver?</p><p>09:14 Sprinting a Marathon: The Delivery Trap</p><p>10:20 Leadership Behaviours Nobody Challenges</p><p>12:00 Trust, Empowerment &amp; High-Pressure Delivery</p><p>13:46 What Separates High-Performing Teams?</p><p>15:22 Prioritising When Everything Feels Urgent</p><p>17:00 Circle of Control vs Organisational Influence</p><p>19:25 What Great Leadership Looks Like Under Pressure</p><p>21:34 Building Trust as an External Consultant</p><p>23:48 The Biggest Myth in Agile</p><p>26:00 Why Agile Practices Alone Don&#39;t Increase Speed</p><p>28:06 Change Fatigue &amp; Continuous Delivery</p><p>30:29 Creating Space to Improve Delivery</p><p>31:11 Are We Creating Better Leaders?</p><p>33:45 Building a Freelance Business</p><p>34:23 Avoiding Burnout &amp; Protecting Your Energy</p><p>36:50 The Problem with Optimisation Culture</p><p>37:48 Lifestyle Business vs Scale Business</p><p>39:35 Tori&#39;s Favourite Leadership Principle</p><p>41:28 What&#39;s Next for Tori?</p><p>43:04 Where to Connect with Tori</p><p>43:53 Not Another Agile Conference 2027</p><p><br></p><p>About Everyday Agile</p><p>The Everyday Agile Podcast explores leadership, delivery, product development, organisational transformation and practical ways of working with people who are helping organisations deliver better outcomes.</p>