
← The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill3 sep · 25 min
494. AMMA — Navigating the Lows of Leadership
What if not wanting to be a leader is exactly what makes you a good one?
In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three questions law firm owners keep sending in: why good employees walk out the door even after a raise, whether leadership can really be taught, and what to do when you catch yourself repeating the exact behavior you swore you'd never repeat. It's a candid conversation about what it actually takes to lead people, even when leading was never the plan.
Here's what you'll learn:
Why turnover in your firm rarely comes down to one cause
How to lead your team when management never came naturally
What it takes to stop repeating the leadership habits you swore you'd avoid
The best leaders never stop asking whether they could be better.
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:02:21) Why We Go To Bed At 8:30
(00:04:47) Why Discipline Feels Like Freedom
(00:08:09) Diagnosing Sudden Employee Turnover
(00:11:42) Exit And Stay Interviews Explained