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44. A Pastor’s Journey to Oneness w/ John Downs - We Worship One God - E12

44. A Pastor’s Journey to Oneness w/ John Downs - We Worship One God - E129 jul 202555 min

<p>In this compelling conversation, Bishop John Downs, former General Superintendent of UPC Australia, shares his transformative journey from Trinitarianism to a deep revelation of the Oneness of God. With a logical and scriptural approach, he walks listeners through pivotal Old and New Testament scriptures that reveal Jesus as the one true God. Bishop Downs also explores the limitations of modern science in dating the earth, discusses creation from a biblical worldview, and testifies to the power of revelation and patient love in sharing truth. This episode is both theological and deeply personal—an essential listen for anyone seeking clarity on the identity of Jesus.</p><p>----------</p><p><u>Podcast Outline with Timestamps:</u></p><p><strong>00:13 – Introduction</strong><br>Nancy introduces Bishop John Downs and sets the stage for a deep dive into the oneness of God.</p><p><strong>01:09 – Discovering Oneness in Isaiah</strong><br>John shares how Isaiah 43:10–11 and 45:21–22 first challenged his Trinitarian perspective.</p><p><strong>03:25 – Connecting Old and New Testaments</strong><br>Titus 2:13 and Revelation 1 confirm that Jesus is the one true God.</p><p><strong>07:13 – The Shift from Trinitarianism to Oneness</strong><br>Bishop Downs recounts how his personal and pastoral debates gradually led him toward biblical oneness.</p><p><strong>08:57 – Creation, Science, and Faith</strong><br>He shares a university paper defending a young earth and critiques the reliability of carbon dating.</p><p><strong>13:15 – The Wheel of Prophecy</strong><br>John introduces a tool that helped him understand the unity of scripture.</p><p><strong>16:47 – Jesus and the First Commandment</strong><br>Exploring Deuteronomy 6:4 and Jesus’ affirmation of the one true God.</p><p><strong>20:42 – Revelation and the Throne of God</strong><br>Discussion of Revelation 4 and the meaning of Jesus sitting on the throne.</p><p><strong>21:32 – Jesus: The Fullness of the Godhead</strong><br>Colossians 2:9 and Isaiah 9:6 reveal Jesus as both the mighty God and everlasting Father.</p><p><strong>29:04 – The Mystery of Godliness</strong><br>1 Timothy 3:16 and Colossians 1 highlight the beauty of God manifest in the flesh.</p><p><strong>34:27 – The Blindness of Trinitarianism</strong><br>Explaining how philosophy and spiritual blindness have obscured the truth of the oneness of God.</p><p><strong>36:05 – “This Takes the Cake” Moment</strong><br>John 14:7–11 becomes a defining passage for Bishop Downs’ full revelation of Jesus as the Father.</p><p><strong>39:12 – God’s Suffering and Redemptive Plan</strong><br>The love of God is revealed in Christ’s suffering and sacrifice.</p><p><strong>44:00 – Gutter Water Illustration</strong><br>A powerful parable showing how even small doctrinal errors pollute truth.</p><p><strong>47:15 – The Name of Jesus and Salvation</strong><br>Discussion on the singular authority and power in the name of Jesus.</p><p><strong>48:44 – Love and Truth in Doctrine</strong><br>Bishop Downs encourages patient, loving dialogue while standing firm on biblical truth.</p><p><strong>52:27 – Accountability for Truth</strong><br>Once you hear or see truth, you are responsible to respond to it.</p><p><strong>53:06 – Closing Prayer</strong><br>Bishop Downs prays for listeners to receive revelation, understanding, and love for God’s Word.</p>