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Rebuilding a $600M Company From Scratch | Peter Rahal, David

Rebuilding a $600M Company From Scratch | Peter Rahal, David10 jul1 u 28 min

<p>Peter Rahal is the Founder and CEO of David. Before David, he built RXBAR in his parents&#39; basement with $10k and sold it to Kellogg for $600M.</p><p><br></p><p>We get into why he basically rebuilt the same company again, how buying his own ingredient supplier made a food business venture-backable, why RXBAR&#39;s paleo positioning was a trap, the EPG fat technology behind David, how GLP-1’s have changed diet trends forever, selling cans of fish as a marketing weapon, the lawsuit that got him 120M impressions in a week, and why he studies fashion houses instead of food companies.</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you to Numeral, Flex, Amplitude, and Merge for supporting this episode.</p><p><br></p><p>Numeral: Sales tax on autopilot https://www.numeral.com</p><p><br></p><p>Flex: Premium banking, 60-day credit, 0% APR https://home.flex.one/referral/bananacapital</p><p><br></p><p>Amplitude: AI analytics https://www.amplitude.com</p><p><br></p><p>Merge: Every model, one API https://www.merge.dev/turner</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>(0:00) David: Tools to increase muscle, decrease fat</p><p>(2:24) Making nutrition evidence-based, not ideological</p><p>(4:27) $300M revenue in year two</p><p>(5:19) Why he rebuilt the same company again</p><p>(7:12) Do what you&#39;re already good at</p><p>(9:57) In food, the only edge is brand</p><p>(12:13) The RXBAR playbook and $600M exit</p><p>(14:20) RXBAR&#39;s original positioning was too fragile</p><p>(15:25) Designing David from first principles</p><p>(18:22) Why people don&#39;t eat protein bars</p><p>(19:33) Building a multi-brand company that lasts</p><p>(25:44) How EPG made David venture-backable</p><p>(29:44) The Medici name and structure</p><p>(31:38) Food entrepreneurs are Luddites</p><p>(33:37) Why Big Food can&#39;t innovate</p><p>(38:21) Beverage is a better business than food</p><p>(40:34) Deciding which products to launch</p><p>(43:21) GLP-1&#39;s ended diet trends forever</p><p>(48:09) Looking good is the new status symbol</p><p>(51:30) Sleep first, exercise second, nutrition third</p><p>(54:35) Brand is just a unique human being</p><p>(59:05) Humor travels</p><p>(1:01:09) Marketing is finding mispriced attention</p><p>(1:06:35) When to bail on a marketing trend</p><p>(1:09:05) What makes a good meme</p><p>(1:10:00) Why David sold cans of fish</p><p>(1:13:30) How to navigate a lawsuit</p><p>(1:17:02) 120M impressions from a lawsuit</p><p>(1:18:52) Lessons from Bezos and Brad Jacobs</p><p>(1:23:30) Why the best brands are fashion and beauty</p><p>(1:25:00) Women set culture</p><p><br></p><p>Referenced</p><p>David: https://davidprotein.com/</p><p>EPG / Epogee: https://epogee.com/</p><p>Whoop: https://www.whoop.com/</p><p>Oura: https://ouraring.com/</p><p>Fort: https://fort.cx/</p><p>David Rumors TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidprotein/video/7616855415875210510</p><p>Founders Podcast: https://www.founderspodcast.com/</p><p>How to Make a Few Billion Dollars by Brad Jacobs: https://www.amazon.com/How-Make-Few-Billion-Dollars/dp/B0CHTQP25T</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Peter</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/PeterRahal</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-rahal-037bba43</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Turner</p><p>Twitter: https://twitter.com/TurnerNovak</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/turnernovak</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to my newsletter to get every episode + the transcript in your inbox every week: https://www.thespl.it/</p>