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EP 437 How to be okay with being okay | Brea Segger
<p>Most of us say we want peace. Then the second we actually touch it, some part of us starts looking for a problem.</p><p>Brea Segger and I talk about why real transformation doesn’t always need a breakdown, a breakthrough, or a giant emotional release. We get into the exhaustion that comes from trying to be someone you’re not, why loneliness can exist even when you’re surrounded by people, and what happens when you stop looking outside yourself for somebody to fix you.</p><p>We also talk about alcohol and distraction, our relationship with nature, the differences Brea sees in how men and women process change, and why twenty minutes of doing absolutely nothing might tell you more about yourself than another year of searching for answers.</p><p>Brea and I are leading Deep Waters together in Nosara, Costa Rica this November.</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more:</p><p>https://www.traverboehm.com/deepwaters</p><p>——</p><p><br></p><p>👉 Men, come train with us in The UNcivilized Nation:</p><p>https://www.manuncivilized.com/thenation</p><p><br></p><p>——</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Brea:</p><p><br></p><p>Website: https://www.breasegger.com/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breasegger/</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Traver:</p><p>Website: https://www.manuncivilized.com</p><p>Substack: https://traverboehm.substack.com</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/traverboehm/</p><p>Get my books: https://www.manuncivilized.com/books</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Who Is Brea Segger?</p><p>03:29 Brea’s Childhood and Feeling Like Something Was Wrong</p><p>06:48 When the Outside World Doesn’t Match What You Feel Inside</p><p>10:41 Why Brea Doesn’t Call Herself a Mystic</p><p>14:14 Alcohol as Distraction and Avoidance</p><p>20:55 Why Being Okay Can Feel Unsafe</p><p>26:15 Does Transformation Need a Big Breakthrough?</p><p>29:18 What Actually Happens When Brea Works With Someone</p><p>33:05 Why We’re So Exhausted</p><p>36:23 Why So Many People Feel Lonely</p><p>39:31 What Does “Soul” Mean?</p><p>41:34 How Men and Women Process Change Differently</p><p>44:17 Stop Looking Outside Yourself for Answers</p><p>45:57 Can You Do Nothing for 20 Minutes?</p><p>48:20 What Five Days Alone Taught Traver</p><p>50:56 Deep Waters and Closing</p>