Kyle Kelland, Managing the Hill

<p>Kyle Kelland has spent twenty years on job sites. Now he's Partner and VP of Construction at Hummingbird Hill Homes... and a camera crew follows him around all day. He tells Mike what that's actually like: the fear that the guys he came up with will stop seeing him as a carpenter and start writing him off as "the HGTV guy who shows up at the end." That opens into the real conversation.</p><p></p><p>Every rung of the ladder thinks the rung above it does nothing, until you get there and realize the physical load didn't disappear, it just turned into a mental one that never shuts off.</p><p></p><p>Kyle talks about lying awake during a thunderstorm with fifteen active sites, and the two weeks he covered for a site super and remembered why he loved the job in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Plus: Mike's account of going on Live with Kelly and Mark with about sixty seconds' warning, right before Wyclef Jean — and why the best pizza in New York has leopard spotting on the crust.</p>