Episode 582: Bird Penetration System

<html><p>Robert Skvarla joins us to discuss pigeon-guided bombs, CIA spy cats, and the animal trainers who brought behaviorism into the intelligence business. We talk Skinner, MKUltra, and Discordian pranksters, all following the ambition to turn living things into programmable machines.</p><p>Read <a href="https://neitherconfirmnordeny.substack.com/" target="_blank">Neither Confirm Nor Deny</a> by Robert Skvarla</p><p>Hit the tip line: <strong>(646) 801-1129</strong> | <strong><a href="mailto:tips@trueanon.com" target="_blank">tips@trueanon.com</a></strong></p><p>Discover more episodes at <strong><a href="https://podcast.trueanon.com" target="_blank">podcast.trueanon.com</a></strong></p><p></p></html>