If Everything Is Trauma, Nothing Is. Dr. Les Parrott on Overthinking, Trauma Culture, and Why Love Refuses to Coddle You.

Dr. Les Parrott joins me for a conversation that refuses the comfort of our cultural vocabulary. As a clinical psychologist, Les insists that pain isn't the same thing as trauma, and that the difference lies in what an experience has done to your capacity to feel safe and function, not in how much it hurt. From there we press into love itself, because rescuing people from the consequences of their choices can feel like compassion while keeping them small.

About Dr. Les Parrott

Dr. Les Parrott is a clinical psychologist and, with his wife, Dr. Leslie Parrott, a #1 New York Times bestselling author and cofounder of the Center for Relationship Development at Seattle Pacific University. He created the Save Your Marriage Before It Starts (SYMBIS) Assessment, a premarital tool used by counselors around the world, and has given his career to helping people build healthy relationships. His newest book with Leslie, The One Year Positive Mental Health Devotional (Tyndale, October 2026), pairs biblical truth with psychological insight for anyone who has ever been kept awake by an anxious mind.

Episode Links

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