Have the Cavs surpassed the Celtics in the Eastern Conference hierarchy? with the Boston Globe’s Gary Washburn

In this episode of the Wine and Gold Talk podcast, host Ethan Sands and Boston Globe NBA writer Gary Washburn discuss the financial and developmental realities shaping the NBA under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).

Washburn provides insight into the Boston Celtics' offseason, explaining that the breakup of the Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum duo was an inevitable financial decision rather than the result of personal animosity.

The conversation then pivots to the shifting hierarchy of the Eastern Conference and whether the Cleveland Cavaliers' offseason changes have elevated them above the Celtics.

The guys emphasize that with the current salary cap restrictions, future championship contention will rely heavily on an organization's internal development, the impact of role players, and a team's mental toughness in the postseason.

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