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Special guest: Michael Bones, Senior Manager of Advocacy at the Investor Group on Climate Change

A landmark High Court decision could change how Australian authorities assess proposed fossil-fuel projects. Dan Ilic and Lewis Hobba speak with Michael Bones about the Mount Pleasant coal mine case, why Scope 3 emissions matter, and what the ruling does—and doesn’t—mean for future mine approvals.

In this episodeDan shares his move into the CEO role at GetUp.Michael explains the High Court’s ruling on the proposed Mount Pleasant mine expansion and emissions from exported coal.The group discusses why Scope 3 emissions made up about 98% of the project’s emissions, and why the court said authorities must consider their local climate impacts.Michael clarifies that the ruling does not automatically block the mine: planning authorities must consider the impacts, but can still decide to approve a project.The conversation explores what the decision could mean for future mine approvals, climate-related legal challenges, and communities facing fires, floods, heat and other climate risks.They also discuss climate damage to the economy, the social cost of carbon, clean-energy jobs and the costs of rebuilding after disasters.Dan and Lewis wrap up with details about the Irrational Fear live show at the Cheerful Earful Podcast Festival in Melbourne.Chapters00:04 Dan’s new role and nonprofit life01:51 The live show and today’s guest03:00 Michael Bones joins to unpack Scope 3 emissions04:09 The Mount Pleasant case and what the High Court decided06:22 Why Scope 3 emissions account for most of the project’s footprint07:39 Attribution science and connecting emissions to local impacts09:09 The scale of the proposed coal expansion09:37 What the ruling could mean for other mine approvals12:14 Climate disasters, housing and economic costs14:13 What planning authorities are required to consider16:09 Potential implications for mining projects18:01 The High Court decision and its 3–2 split20:21 Closing thoughts and live-show details Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.