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Survival of the Kindest: 60 years researching what makes us tick; Hugh Mackay AO
<p><strong>Bringing Community Back Together | Season 2 Episode 4</strong><br><strong>Hugh Mackay AO | Survival of the Kindest: 60 years researching what makes us tick</strong></p><p><em>"The problems we're now facing are self-inflicted. We've done this to ourselves, inadvertently, unthinkingly. If you dream of a kinder, more compassionate, more inclusive society, the only way that dream comes true is for those of us who dream it to live it."</em></p><p>What if the number one public health issue in Australia today isn't physical at all?</p><p>In this episode of Bringing Community Back Together, Samantha Heron sits down with Hugh Mackay AO, social psychologist, researcher and bestselling author of 25 books, who has spent more than 60 years listening to Australians and trying to understand what makes us tick. ... Frequently described as "the man who explains us to ourselves" Sam likes to describe him as the David Attenborough of Aussie Humans ;) </p><p>This conversation lands at a particularly fitting moment: Hugh is about to receive an Honorary Doctor of Letters from the University of Sydney, recognising his lifelong contribution to Australian society.</p><p>The connection between Hugh and Samantha goes back almost a decade, to a coffee after a School of Life talk in 2017 that became an ongoing, generous mentorship.</p><p><strong>In this conversation, Hugh shares:</strong></p><ul><li>Why archaeologists now believe it was "survival of the kindest" ... new research suggesting our species outlived every other human species not through strength or bigger brains, but because we alone learned to live communally.</li><li>The number one public health issue in Australia today — new data showing 51% of Australian adults are socially isolated, lonely, or both, and why isolation and loneliness are not the same thing.</li><li>What fifty years of individualism has cost us ? Shrinking households, rising mobility, and a culture that treats busyness as a badge of honour rather than a barrier to connection.</li><li>Why the housing crisis might quietly be good for us... as more young adults move back home, Hugh sees Australia being pushed back into a kind of intergenerational living we designed ourselves out of.</li><li>The danger of connection that isn't really connection — why data transfer via a screen is no substitute for eye contact, and why he believes the AI chatbot boom is "hugely dangerous" precisely because it f