519: What Therapists Get Wrong—and How to Fix It

Episode 519: What Therapists Get Wrong—and How to Fix It Hosts:

Kevin Cornelius, LMFT

Dr. David Burns

Guest:

Jeremy Karmel

What happens when therapy becomes something you simply keep doing rather than something that actually helps you get better?

In this lively and provocative episode of The Feeling Good Podcast, Kevin Cornelius, LMFT, joins Dr. David Burns and Jeremy Karmel for a candid conversation about some of the biggest problems they see in modern mental health care—and what therapists can do differently.

Jeremy brings a unique perspective to the discussion: he experienced severe depression in college and spent months in different therapies and therapy groups without getting better. Then, working with one of David Burns' students, he discovered powerful cognitive therapy techniques that produced dramatic results in just two weeks. The experience left him both grateful and frustrated—and motivated to understand why effective treatment can sometimes be so difficult to find.

David, Kevin, and Jeremy explore several common pitfalls in therapy, including the failure to measure results, getting lost in the past, talking about problems in vague and general terms, and assuming that every therapist is qualified to treat every kind of problem.

Accountability: Is Therapy Actually Working? The conversation begins with one of David's central concerns: accountability.

If someone has been coming to therapy for months—or even years—how do they know whether treatment is actually helping?

Kevin shares his own experience of spending several years in therapy without clearly defined goals or any systematic testing of progress. Although he valued the relationship with his therapist, he now sees the lack of specific goals and measurement as a major limitation. By contrast, his current approach involves establishing concrete treatment goals and measuring progress before and after sessions.