As Times Goes By: The Odyssey, Casablanca, Birth of a Nation, and Southern Horrors (with Joseph Kelly)

In this far-reaching conversation, Greg Olear talks to Joseph Kelly, a professor and director of the Irish & Irish American Studies program at the College of Charleston, and the author of “The Biggest Lie: The Pre-History of Fascism: 1818-1915.” They discuss James Joyce, “Ulysses,” Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey,” Ernest Hemingway, Rick Blaine, the Lincoln assassination, Irish immigration, “Southern Horrors,” “Birth of a Nation,” the origins of the “great replacement” narrative, ICE, American fascism, and much more.