John Gillen: Ethereum Will Fly From Here And Most Investors Aren't Ready (Here's Why)

<p>John Gillen says Ethereum could hit $4,000 before the end of the year, and he&#39;s been making that case in a viral essay series called Wartime Ethereum. The ex-BlackRock analyst and Milk Road Daily Show host breaks down why tokenization and stablecoins are converging on ETH, why he thinks Wall Street is about to adopt it as its new favorite asset, and who he believes the next wave of buyers actually is.</p><p>John Gillen is a host of the Milk Road Daily Show and a former BlackRock analyst who spent six years working on the Aladdin platform, including time with the firm&#39;s digital assets team.</p><p>The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>02:21 Wartime Ethereum Article Origin Story</p><p>04:30 ETH Worth Zero Or Everything</p><p>06:13 Tokenization Exemption Coming After Clarity Fails</p><p>08:18 190 Million ETH Holders Globally</p><p>10:33 Uncanny Valley Of Wealth Explained</p><p>12:44 Blackrock ETF Leader On Converting Gamblers</p><p>14:55 Meme Coins As Portfolio Onboarding</p><p>17:06 Samara Cohen Blackrock Quote On Investors</p><p>19:14 Next Marginal Buyers Are Institutions</p><p>21:16 Pay Gas Fees In USDC Coming</p><p>23:00 USDC Gas Fees Radically Expand ETH Market</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Socials:</p><p>John Gillen X: https://x.com/BitcoinJesusETH</p><p>Milk Road Crypto X: https://x.com/MilkRoadDaily</p><p>Milk Road Crypto Website: https://milkroad.com/</p><p><br></p><p>Partners: </p><p>If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you&#39;re out of range, you&#39;re rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua</p><p>---</p><p>Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs &amp; more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains &amp; via API. https://dinari.com/</p><p>---</p><p>Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. </p><p>---</p><p>Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge</p><p>---</p><p>Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.</p><p>Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/</p><p>---</p><p>𝗪𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝗴𝗵-𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆, 𝗻𝗼𝗻-𝗯𝗶𝗮𝘀𝗲𝗱, 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝗴𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝗲𝗰𝗼𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺. 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:</p><p><br></p><p>Website: https://therollup.co/</p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...</p><p>Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast</p><p>Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco</p><p>Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages</p><p>Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy</p><p>Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh</p><p>The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures</p><p><br></p><p>𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦